Here's the stats on my website wapsculpture.com/home.html from Google Analytics for the last year. It's been picked up on blogs all over the world. What have I gotten from it? No sales, just some emails.
Google Analytics
Dashboard
Mar 8, 2007 - Mar 9, 2008 Comparing to:
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Site Usage
12,363 Visits
68,690 Pageviews
5.56 Pages/Visit
35.11% Bounce Rate
00:01:00 Avg. Time on Site
92.91% % New Visits
Traffic Sources Overview [remove]
Referring Sites 10,256 (82.96%)
Direct Traffic 1,940 (15.69%)
Search Engines 166 (1.34%)
Other 1 (0.01%)
How about you?
Google Analytics
Dashboard
Mar 8, 2007 - Mar 9, 2008 Comparing to:
Date Range
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Site Usage
12,363 Visits
68,690 Pageviews
5.56 Pages/Visit
35.11% Bounce Rate
00:01:00 Avg. Time on Site
92.91% % New Visits
Traffic Sources Overview [remove]
Referring Sites 10,256 (82.96%)
Direct Traffic 1,940 (15.69%)
Search Engines 166 (1.34%)
Other 1 (0.01%)
How about you?
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Mon, March 10, 2008 - 1:20 AMI have a similar result. Lots of people coming to the site. Just a few emails. That's why I think websites are just best for PR. I couldn't imagine anyone buying a piece of art from a website for more than $100. People need to see the art at a gallery or event. So, the site helps to get people there.
This total includes both my art & music sites. (1 year)
16,818,341
KBytes
97,234
Visits
180,161
Pages
374,892
files
hits
507,989
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Thu, March 13, 2008 - 6:22 AMI use my website as an online portfolio and nothing more. Wen drumming up business for myself (murals and what not) in my area, refer potential clients to the site to see samples of my work. I get a lot of hits, and generally a decent turn around for the work, too. I used to try selling some of my art on the site, but those pages rarely got hit, and nothing sold. As for stats...I didn't bother taking notice. -
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Fri, March 14, 2008 - 10:43 AMHave any of you used the traffic to generate income using affiliates and other resources? -
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Mon, March 31, 2008 - 8:39 AMYeah a young lady in NY showed me if I sat and watched 30 sec advertisements for a penny each time that they'd guarantee traffic to my website. It seems to have helped get people to check out my art, but no purchases have been made yet. I rarely even watch the advertisements. They limit the amount you can view unless you pay, so basically it's a waste of time, but you get traffic to your site.
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Fri, March 14, 2008 - 5:58 PMI think websites start to lose credibility when they have a whole bunch of affiliate ads on them. On my site I have banner links to organizations that I support (greenpeace, aclu, etc.) but no affiliate ads.
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Fri, March 14, 2008 - 6:22 PMI want my site to be clean, nothing to distract from the art. -
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Sun, March 16, 2008 - 8:36 AMI have heard that from a lot of artist and that makes me sad b/c if we as an artist community banned together as well as other online entities we would all be more profitable. Imagine how much more traffic and buisness we would all receive if we were linked together in the buisness of selling art. Art is emotion manifested and very few people have the skill to do that. That is why we are unique and if we capitalized on that we could dispell the notion of the starving artist. If we found other artist work that we appreciated and sold it on our site and visa versa it would move that selling of art in a new direction. -
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Sun, March 16, 2008 - 9:20 AMIt is a nice sentiment you have Elizabeth but not one that works well in the real world. We are not just "fellow artists" but also competitors in the marketplace. It is like walking down the aisle in a super market. While it is great for the comsumer to have so many choices, it also means that each individual vendor has to work harder to stand out to make a sale. That is why companies may often spend more on the packaging of an item that to actually make what's in it. When you have 50 different artists on a site, then you have 49 different options that people can spend their money on other than you.
If we are "unique" then we can't afford to dillute that by throwing our stuff in a big bowl with a bunch of other artists. How many other products do you know of do what you suggest? How many toothpaste companies would stay in business if they had a rival brand on their site for sale? In the end, survival as a business depends on a customer base that wants what you sell more than what someone else's selling. -
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Sun, March 16, 2008 - 1:21 PMI think the fallacy is that choice is a negative. Especially if done properly choice can motivate a buyer to purchase. While having the same exact work on your site might hurt depending on the caliber of work, other genres would give the consumer a broader idea of what they truly want. If you do not make pottery but know of a great pottery artist, why not help the consumer find what they want and then you both succeed. That is what an affiliate relationship does it benefits both parties. You get a commission for the referral and the artist gets a sale they might not have had without the traffic from you. That is capitalism, it promotes you to work harder and everyone else to work harder for a better product for the consumer. Right now it is not something I have even tried but I believe that with the right factors it could work.
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Sun, March 16, 2008 - 2:25 PMWhy promote other artists on your own site? I can see maybe promoting other things not related to art on your site. Like I saw this site on Peak Oil and the guy was also an affilaite for camping equipment/etc. That seemed to make sense. But, it's hard to get people to come to your site as it is and then you're basically suggesting that the visitor go elsewhere. What kind of a message would that be about your own work?
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Sun, March 16, 2008 - 2:44 PMThe reason is to promote all art and to encourage consumers to purchase. My sister is the one who has helped me understand this concept. I have never been a salesperson and she was born one. Again, I haven't yet tried this but once I do I will let others know the results! -
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Sun, March 16, 2008 - 4:16 PMI've got way to much ego to promote anyone else on my website. It's all about what you want to say about yourself. If you want to be seen as one of a collective or movement then it's a good idea. -
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Sun, March 16, 2008 - 5:29 PMSite Usage
438 Visits
1041 Page views
32 average Pages/Visit (!)
80 sec Avg. Time on Site
Referring Sites 3.9%
Direct Traffic 47%
Search Engines 49% -
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Mon, March 17, 2008 - 5:22 AM"I think the fallacy is that choice is a negative."
No the fallacy is that a multitude of choices will encourage a purchase of YOUR particular product. Yes when you go into a Supermarket you are more likely to buy something when it has a range of choice than only a tiny selection. But you buy that piece that catches your eye. In which case, have many choices muddies the water for the seller. You are another bottle on the shelf.
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Sun, April 6, 2008 - 3:54 AMI like your ideas, style and way of puting your ideas out there. I believe you are tapping into the concept that there is more than enough for everyone. I truly believe that.
Maybe your concept is for a giant PR campaign for art rather than a campaign to sell art. People need to see why art, especialy contemporary art is relevent. Then maybe they will buy it. But without the knowledge that it help the whole as well as the individual, most artists will be left outside of the marketplace.
Thank you for your fresh ideas.
luisdanielgutierrez.com
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Thu, April 17, 2008 - 9:34 PM"That's why I think websites are just best for PR. I couldn't imagine anyone buying a piece of art from a website for more than $100. "
Hmm. I find this to be untrue. Not only are there many successful artist who sell work directly from their websites (originals included, not just prints) they also sell pieces for a lot more than $100.
There are people out there who are interested in buying art that they really like, who have no intention of physically traveling to it's location to see it or to get it.
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Fri, April 18, 2008 - 8:21 PMI think successful artists have a much easier time selling work online. If you're known in the art world or you have many shows and are already selling lots of work then it opens the door to other sorts of sales because people will see you as more legitimate. But, I think you have to be "successful" first. If your name is not known seems to me your not going to make many online sales over $100 (even if you do get lots of traffic).
TTINLA
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Tue, April 22, 2008 - 8:30 PMIt's easy to be one's own agent , but it's best if you're approached by a art agent/agency to legally represent you. That way you don't have to worry about the business end so much. I'm all for stuff like the art books Metamorphosis and Carnivora The Dark Art of Automobiles. Which is a joint project/publication of many artist. It's a damn shame people who own or lease websites don't get a small financial kickback from visits to their site/sites. -
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 5:14 AM"It's easy to be one's own agent , but it's best if you're approached by a art agent/agency to legally represent you. "
That depends if they can bring in enough extra income to justify it. At a workshop from California Lawyers For The Arts, I heard that a visual arts agents usually take the lion share of the cash on commission (50-75%) on such big money deals such as licensing for merchandise. The flip side of this is that it may be impossible to get these deals without an agent. But I'd give it some long hard thought before I'd tie up my income with someone else.. -
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Fri, April 25, 2008 - 6:39 AMNot if you get a agent that's a friend or is just handling excess workload for you. Les Barany (H.R. Giger's agent) isn't out to rob anyone. He gets his pay for organizing events, and helps his clients w/ excess workload. He's the only agent who ever gave me sound business advice for free. A book you might find invaluable is Tad Crawford's "Legal Guide To Being a Visual Artist" which outlines the dos and don'ts of the buisness, and how to be one's own agent.
Peace,Light,and Darkness,
Kenneth
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 2:10 PMJames, where did you go to the workshop from California Lawyers For The Arts? Was it in LA? Do you think these sorts of workshops are valuable?
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Thu, April 24, 2008 - 6:48 AMI went to a couple of the workshops here in San Francisco but there are a number of them in Sacramento and LA. The workshops are small and fairly inexpensive (10 dollars for members and 20 dollars for non-members). They are given by a practicing lawyer in the field and cover such topics as, business structure, contacts, taxes, copyright law, trademarks, etc. Membership for California Lawyers For the Arts is 30.00 a year.
I think the CALA workshops are useful. When you compare the price it would be to sit down with a lawyer for a consultation, CALA is dirt cheap! There are lots of legal land-mines out there. Getting knowledge of what they are is a great way to help trying to avoid them. To find out more about them here is the link to their website.
www.calawyersforthearts.org/index.html
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Thu, April 24, 2008 - 4:01 PMHey - wow. I didn't know about Google Analytics.
Looks free, too (?) Unless you have amillion hits or something. True? -
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Thu, April 24, 2008 - 7:37 PMIt's free.
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Fri, April 25, 2008 - 6:42 AMNot everyone lives in California -
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Fri, April 25, 2008 - 4:51 PM"Not everyone lives in California"
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Sat, April 26, 2008 - 10:36 AM"Not if you get a agent that's a friend or is just handling excess workload for you."
Well that sounds more like a manager than an agent. In any business, you can break it down into three sections, Production, Management and Sales. People who make the product (Production), people who handle all the tasks needed to run the business (Management) and people to sell the product (Sales). A manager would be handling all the administrative tasks needed to run a business. This would be very useful since it would allow the artist to focus on making their art (Production) rather than the more tedious tasks of ordering art supplies, paying the bills, keeping the books straight, etc.
An agent on the other hand, would be for Sales. You wouldn't want an agent that couldn't bring in new work on a regular basis. Nor would you want one that would be handling the management part. Their job is to hunt down new clients. Getting an agent makes a lot of sense if they can get you into markets that you wouldn't be able to get into otherwise. They would more likely require to be the exclusive representative of your work in a certain market or geographic area. Like most sales people, they'd be working on commision. So they would always get a cut of the action.
Of course, whether you get a manager or an agent depends on what your business really needs. If you already have more work than you can handle, a manager may be best since they can help run your business, freeing you up to produce more work. If what you need is getting more work, than you should be looking for an agent. -
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 6:12 PMwow and i thought it was just me! heehee yea i get tons of traffic, dont sell anything over $100 and ive had an art site for about 5 years. jsut good for getting your portfolio out and to expose some art to some new folks. gallery scene is nothing but a nightmare, ten years invested and have yet to make a profit, but yet i know i would be miserable without trying. funny how its easy to make money with projects you despise and cant make a cent on the things you love. funny world we live in. :)
sometimes i feel like im on the right path if money doesent necessarily agree with my personal vision.
other times I just fight feeling bitter and misplaced in this world.........such is life.
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Re: Your website, hits and what you get from it.
Sun, May 18, 2008 - 12:27 PMit sounds like many of you could benefit from the use of conversion ratio tracking. the theory is that advertising to a more specific target market will bring a higher ratio of visitors into purchasers.
www.sitepoint.com/article/r...t-visitors
www.seochat.com/c/a/Websit...o-Tracking/
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